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	<title>Comments on: Lessons in Wisdom From Rehoboam (1 Kings 12)</title>
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		<title>By: Learning Wisdom from a Fool @ Ron Edmondson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Learning Wisdom from a Fool @ Ron Edmondson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, you&#039;ve give me something else to potentially blog about. Honestly I&#039;m not familiar with this discussion about leadership in conservative evangelical circles. I actually thought I was in that group, but I&#039;ve never heard that talk.  I can say though, at first exposure, that I disagree with it.  For one thing there were too many individuals in the Bible that I consider to have wonderful leadership qualities, such as David stepping forward against Goliath when no one else would.  The actual fact about the &quot;language of leadership&quot; is that it wasn&#039;t in our language period until the last couple centuries. It&#039;s a fairly new term and body of study.  That doesn&#039;t make it against Biblical teaching.  I don&#039;t think student ministry or college ministry or multi site church are terms used in the Bible, but they are certainly a part of our Christian culture today and are ways that Kingdom growth occurs.  I will have to research it more, however, but at first hearing of the issue I remain committed to the hopes of building leadership in the church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, you&#8217;ve give me something else to potentially blog about. Honestly I&#8217;m not familiar with this discussion about leadership in conservative evangelical circles. I actually thought I was in that group, but I&#8217;ve never heard that talk.  I can say though, at first exposure, that I disagree with it.  For one thing there were too many individuals in the Bible that I consider to have wonderful leadership qualities, such as David stepping forward against Goliath when no one else would.  The actual fact about the &#8220;language of leadership&#8221; is that it wasn&#8217;t in our language period until the last couple centuries. It&#8217;s a fairly new term and body of study.  That doesn&#8217;t make it against Biblical teaching.  I don&#8217;t think student ministry or college ministry or multi site church are terms used in the Bible, but they are certainly a part of our Christian culture today and are ways that Kingdom growth occurs.  I will have to research it more, however, but at first hearing of the issue I remain committed to the hopes of building leadership in the church.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your response Ron :-)

I&#039;d be keen to read what you have to say in relation to Michelle&#039;s question as well...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your response Ron <img src='http://www.ronedmondson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be keen to read what you have to say in relation to Michelle&#8217;s question as well&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: Michelle George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be interested to hear  your thoughts on the current push back against &quot;leadership&quot; in conservative evangelical circles. The usual comments are along the lines of &quot;the language of leadership is not used in the Bible. it is a modern addition that is focussed on prestige and power for individuals&quot;
.-= Michelle George&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.michellegeorge.net/2009/09/07/shhh-liste/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shhhh…listen&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested to hear  your thoughts on the current push back against &#8220;leadership&#8221; in conservative evangelical circles. The usual comments are along the lines of &#8220;the language of leadership is not used in the Bible. it is a modern addition that is focussed on prestige and power for individuals&#8221;<br />
.-= Michelle George&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.michellegeorge.net/2009/09/07/shhh-liste/" rel="nofollow">Shhhh…listen</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, I would have to think through a definition, and you may have triggered a thought for me I&#039;d be willing to post about again soon, but I can easily say we are on the same page with our thinking towards a definition. I do not recall examples of leaders God used who didn&#039;t lead.  They were willing to go where no one else would and do what no one else would do.  I totally agree with you Andrew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, I would have to think through a definition, and you may have triggered a thought for me I&#8217;d be willing to post about again soon, but I can easily say we are on the same page with our thinking towards a definition. I do not recall examples of leaders God used who didn&#8217;t lead.  They were willing to go where no one else would and do what no one else would do.  I totally agree with you Andrew.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, how do you define &#039;servant leadership&#039;? 

I ask becasue a current definition I&#039;ve been given by a leader is that a true &#039;servant leader&#039; doesnt need to &#039;lead from the front&#039; in their church, they just need to let God lead and walk behind and &#039;shepherd&#039; the flock... 

that doesnt sit right with me, to me a godly leader needs to lead from the front by leading God&#039;s people in God&#039;s will but does this by being the first to get their hands &#039;dirty&#039; getting stuck into the work at hand and working along side while leading... 

what&#039;s your definition?
.-= Andrew&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewedwards.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/leadership-lessons-from-a-one-year-old/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Leadership Lessons from a One Year Old&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, how do you define &#8216;servant leadership&#8217;? </p>
<p>I ask becasue a current definition I&#8217;ve been given by a leader is that a true &#8216;servant leader&#8217; doesnt need to &#8216;lead from the front&#8217; in their church, they just need to let God lead and walk behind and &#8216;shepherd&#8217; the flock&#8230; </p>
<p>that doesnt sit right with me, to me a godly leader needs to lead from the front by leading God&#8217;s people in God&#8217;s will but does this by being the first to get their hands &#8216;dirty&#8217; getting stuck into the work at hand and working along side while leading&#8230; </p>
<p>what&#8217;s your definition?<br />
.-= Andrew&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://andrewedwards.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/leadership-lessons-from-a-one-year-old/" rel="nofollow">Leadership Lessons from a One Year Old</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bill.  Look forward to hearing more about the book.  

Brandon, I agree. Humbling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill.  Look forward to hearing more about the book.  </p>
<p>Brandon, I agree. Humbling!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used this passage in my upcoming book to talk about servant leadership.  I think this is the first recorded instance of servant leadership in the Bible.  Your points are spot on. I especially like &quot;Doing what is right may not always be popular, but it is right.&quot;  We will be accountable as stewards for what God has given to us; even the decisions we make - He will ask us if we make right decisions for HIS assets, not ours.

Great post, Ron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used this passage in my upcoming book to talk about servant leadership.  I think this is the first recorded instance of servant leadership in the Bible.  Your points are spot on. I especially like &#8220;Doing what is right may not always be popular, but it is right.&#8221;  We will be accountable as stewards for what God has given to us; even the decisions we make &#8211; He will ask us if we make right decisions for HIS assets, not ours.</p>
<p>Great post, Ron.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s humbling, but I&#039;ve learned to surround myself with godly, older men who have walked the path before me. This passage has a lot of meaning for me. Never think that youthful energy allows us to ignore aged wisdom. Awesome thoughts, Ron!
.-= Brandon Cox&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/brandonacox/~3/YJauY9fxzfc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How We Record Sermons for the Audio Podcast&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s humbling, but I&#8217;ve learned to surround myself with godly, older men who have walked the path before me. This passage has a lot of meaning for me. Never think that youthful energy allows us to ignore aged wisdom. Awesome thoughts, Ron!<br />
.-= Brandon Cox&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/brandonacox/~3/YJauY9fxzfc/" rel="nofollow">How We Record Sermons for the Audio Podcast</a> =-.</p>
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