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		<title>By: One Contrast Between Leaders and Managers &#124; Ron Edmondson</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Contrast Between Leaders and Managers &#124; Ron Edmondson</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] this observation, are you more of a leader or a manager? (Read THIS POST for more on this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Leading One Who Wants to be Led vs. One Who Wants to be a Leader &#171; Random Thoughts from an Online Pastor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leading One Who Wants to be Led vs. One Who Wants to be a Leader &#171; Random Thoughts from an Online Pastor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Leading One Who Wants to be Led vs. One Who Wants to be a Leader @ Ron Edmondson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leading One Who Wants to be Led vs. One Who Wants to be a Leader @ Ron Edmondson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] THIS POST and THIS POST for similar thought processes.   Share [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Step Across the Line to Leadership Excellence @ Ron Edmondson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Step Across the Line to Leadership Excellence @ Ron Edmondson</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] I love watching the dynamics of organizational growth and leadership. It is always interesting to me how people approach the position they are given. Some step up and lead quickly&#8230;others take a short time to adjust to the organizational culture before leading&#8230;some never move from employee to a leader on a team. I personally like to surround myself with leaders. It&#8217;s harder to lead leaders.  Managing workers who are told every move to make is easier in structure, but, in my opinion, it&#8217;s more effective, more productive, and more fun to create environments that let&#8217;s people lead.  (Read a similar post about this difference HERE.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I love watching the dynamics of organizational growth and leadership. It is always interesting to me how people approach the position they are given. Some step up and lead quickly&#8230;others take a short time to adjust to the organizational culture before leading&#8230;some never move from employee to a leader on a team. I personally like to surround myself with leaders. It&#8217;s harder to lead leaders.  Managing workers who are told every move to make is easier in structure, but, in my opinion, it&#8217;s more effective, more productive, and more fun to create environments that let&#8217;s people lead.  (Read a similar post about this difference HERE.) [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by ronedmondson: Is there a difference in leadership and management? Consider my thoughts in this repost http://is.gd/5cleX...</description>
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		<title>By: 100 Inspirational Blog Posts for Leaders &#38; Managers - Career Overview</title>
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		<dc:creator>100 Inspirational Blog Posts for Leaders &#38; Managers - Career Overview</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Are You a Leader or a Manager?: Ron Edmondson outlines the difference between leadership and managing in this post. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 5 Things I Have To Do, But Don&#8217;t Like To Do As a Leader - Ron Edmondson</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 Things I Have To Do, But Don&#8217;t Like To Do As a Leader - Ron Edmondson</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Managing – I much prefer leading a vision versus managing the process of accomplishing the vision. I love big pictures, but stress over details. Part of my role, however, as a leader is to insure that the vision is actually accomplished and not simply painted. (Read a related post HERE.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Altering My Personal Leadership Style - Ron Edmondson</title>
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		<description>[...] I have learned that this approach is not always effective and honestly it is not even always fair.  I realize, especially in the birthing stage of our church, that people are looking to me for accountability and structure. They want and need to be managed as much as be led.  (I personally believe there is a difference.  To read more about this concept read this POST.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bennet Simonton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bennet Simonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to disagree, Ron,

People should not get confused by catchy answers like &quot;A manager does things right, a leader does the right thing.&quot; These sell books but they have no substance.

Managing applies to the effective use of a resource such as money management or supply chain management or what-have-you. People are a resource and they must be managed like any other resource, but obviously the tools are different for each resource.

Leadership applies to people and denotes the sending of value standard messages to people which they then follow/use.  Thus we say that they have been &quot;led&quot; in the direction of those value standards. Leadership is therefore one side of the coin called values, the other side being followership.

Any manager who accepts the responsibility of managing people as well as one or more other resources such as production machinery, sales, finances or whatever must be proficient at managing them all.  Otherwise, they should not have accepted the job.

To say that &quot;Management is about coping with complexity - it is responsive. Leadership is about coping with change - it too is responsive, but mostly it is proactive.&quot; is so much bull, a catchy group of words without truth.  Complexity includes change since change is a constant in everything.  To think that leadership is only about change and has nothing to do with the everyday routine is likewise untrue.

Whatever one manages, one must learn the skills and methods required to succeed in that milieu.  For most, one can find some very good books that do disclose most or many of the related truths.  Unfortunately, for managing people that is not the case.  And the vast majority of those who publish have never proven what they profess. 

Best regards, Ben
Author &quot;Leading People to be Highly Motivated and Committed&quot;</description>
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<p>People should not get confused by catchy answers like &#8220;A manager does things right, a leader does the right thing.&#8221; These sell books but they have no substance.</p>
<p>Managing applies to the effective use of a resource such as money management or supply chain management or what-have-you. People are a resource and they must be managed like any other resource, but obviously the tools are different for each resource.</p>
<p>Leadership applies to people and denotes the sending of value standard messages to people which they then follow/use.  Thus we say that they have been &#8220;led&#8221; in the direction of those value standards. Leadership is therefore one side of the coin called values, the other side being followership.</p>
<p>Any manager who accepts the responsibility of managing people as well as one or more other resources such as production machinery, sales, finances or whatever must be proficient at managing them all.  Otherwise, they should not have accepted the job.</p>
<p>To say that &#8220;Management is about coping with complexity &#8211; it is responsive. Leadership is about coping with change &#8211; it too is responsive, but mostly it is proactive.&#8221; is so much bull, a catchy group of words without truth.  Complexity includes change since change is a constant in everything.  To think that leadership is only about change and has nothing to do with the everyday routine is likewise untrue.</p>
<p>Whatever one manages, one must learn the skills and methods required to succeed in that milieu.  For most, one can find some very good books that do disclose most or many of the related truths.  Unfortunately, for managing people that is not the case.  And the vast majority of those who publish have never proven what they profess. </p>
<p>Best regards, Ben<br />
Author &#8220;Leading People to be Highly Motivated and Committed&#8221;</p>
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